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Post by boneyMitchell2006 on Jul 7, 2006 21:37:35 GMT 1
I love Dusty too, especially the 'Memphis' album. 'Son Of A Preacher Man' was the first single I ever bought! I often thought that a cover of this song by Marcia Barrett would be excellent! Maybe 'Windmills of The Mind' for Liz Mithell - her voice would be great on lead for this. have you heard Liz'z version of 'Somewhere'? This would have been another good Boney M. cover because I think it would work better with the Liz/Marcia/Frank combination. Maybe itis because Liz's voice is so connected to the Boney M. sound that it does not sound right (to me) if she hasn't got that back-up combination with Marcia (and Frank). oh dear marcia did do some backing vocals yes thats ttrue but liz sang plenty songs that dont inc marcia on backing vocals ...and i loved how she got to ablib over her self(liz) on songs thats pure class the reunion album you can hardly hear marcia only on take the heat off me(her song) and even the original rivers of babylon its liz you hear all the way though i have marcias version of rivers and it sounds not one bit like a boney m song even though its a boney m ish backin track!! true liz was more of the sound  just how it was |
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Post by richardjohn on Jul 7, 2006 21:56:01 GMT 1
I love Liz's 'Somewhere'. l'd like her to record more classic covers. I was thinking that Marcia would sound great singing some Joan Armatrading stuff. It would really fit in with what she's doing know. 'Love and Affection' is a bit too obvious, but there are others like 'Drop The Pilot' or the lesser known 'Heaven'. I can hear her doing an uptempo 'Weakness in Me'. Otherwise how about Marcia covering Amii Stewarts 'Friends'. That's such a sexy song, it would suit her voice.
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Post by jdbaptist on Jul 11, 2006 17:15:39 GMT 1
I love the 'Friends' track by Amii Stewart! Did you ever hear her album of Ennio Morricone tracks? (which was also produced by Mr. Morricone himself). It has fantastic moments. It would be great for Marcia to utilise that 'soprano' voice of hers as well some more. I couldn't believe it when I heard her sing 'opera style' on the 'Survival' album. I suppose that's what you call being versatile...  |
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Post by richardjohn on Jul 11, 2006 20:13:56 GMT 1
Yes, I was really surprised when I heard Marcia's operatic style on 'Survival'. l've just got my car back after a month off the road following a four-car shunt so l'm enjoying listening to my music again. I'm going to listen to 'Survival' again tomorrow. l like 'Stange Rumours' but it takes me all my patience to listen to 'Hallo Freunde', l usually have to skip that one. l wonder what happed to the stuff Marcia recorded in 1981. I liked 'You' and 'l'm Lonely' at the time, but looking back I can see that Marcia deserved better material. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but i do think that Marcia should have launched a solo career after 'Boonoonoonoos'.
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Post by jdbaptist on Jul 14, 2006 18:02:55 GMT 1
'Hallo Freunde' is one of the weirdest tracks I have ever heard but I love it! It reminds me a little bit of early Grace Jones! (The New Wave stuff like 'Private Life' and 'She's Lost Control') and what's more I really don't know a word of German! It's quite a crazy, experimental number and I love Marcia for doing it! I think there was supposed to be a 12-inch release of 'Seeing Is Believing' and 'Strange Rumours' but it never surfaced, as far as I know? If you like Grace Jones then there is a new double CD collection out called 'The Grace Jones Story'. It covers almost everytning from 1977 to 1994 (except for 'Slave To The Rhythm'). The release got absolutely no publicity and it's already gone Gold in the UK! I think Boney M. and Grace Jones are two sides of the same Disco Coin. If you look at their backgrounds you can see that they are quite similar; The Euro/Jamaican sound, their births in Disco; their respective svengalis who helped shape them and the fantastic visual effect!  |
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Post by richardjohn on Jul 16, 2006 19:47:26 GMT 1
I had to listen to 'Hallo Freunde' again to remind myself. Still can't make up my mind about it but it did make me realise one thing. When Marcia recalls the Boney M hits in the lyrics, she sings Daddy Cool, and I realised how much of her voice you can actually hear on the original.
I'm with you on Grace Jones too. I have most of her albums but only the latter ones on CD where she lost it a bit. I like the Nightclubbing album and Libertango in particular. Warm Leatherette is a good album too. If you're feeling stressed 'Bull****' is a great track. The earliest albums are VERY disco and a bit camp to say the least, but La Vie En Rose is good.
The new collection you referred to sounds good. I just looked it up and it's very comprehensive. Might have to invest in that one!
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Post by jdbaptist on Jul 17, 2006 18:22:07 GMT 1
The packaging for the Grace Jones compilation is pretty nifty too and with excellent sleeve notes (Farian, Sony/ BMG, are you listening?!) it is really a great collection.
I know what you mean about Marcia Barrett's vocals when you listen back carefully to Boney M. records you can see how important she is to the Boney M. tracks. It's Marcia's voice which seems to 'frame' all the vocals in the song.
Listen to 'Hey Joe' and for all intents and purposes it is a Boney M. track! The choral vocals are spot on and it sounds like Boney M.! Boney M. sounded more like this live than any Boney M. record! It wasn't just Liz being kept up all night in the studio having to record vocal tracks over and over again and she should be appreciated a bit more for her contribution to the sound.
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Post by boneyMitchell2006 on Jul 17, 2006 18:53:32 GMT 1
The packaging for the Grace Jones compilation is pretty nifty too and with excellent sleeve notes (Farian, Sony/ BMG, are you listening?!) it is really a great collection. I know what you mean about Marcia Barrett's vocals when you listen back carefully to Boney M. records you can see how important she is to the Boney M. tracks. It's Marcia's voice which seems to 'frame' all the vocals in the song. Listen to 'Hey Joe' and for all intents and purposes it is a Boney M. track! The choral vocals are spot on and it sounds like Boney M.! Boney M. sounded more like this live than any Boney M. record! It wasn't just Liz being kept up all night in the studio having to record vocal tracks over and over again and she should be appreciated a bit more for her contribution to the sound. yes she was a backing singer on boney m songs but liz mitchell was the lead singer though!!! hey joe a boney m song eh now way ever!!! never ever ever its liz mitchell vocals everyone remembers do i have to post marcias rivers on this site to prove a point!! coz i will you know!! look dear i dont know what point ur making but liz was needed more than marcia lots lots more the songs sing for there selfs face the facts and shut ur face liz is the true lead singer anyway will tell u that anyone the 30 years boney m special who was there liz her show her voice wonder why frank loved liz mitchells voice the best? coz it is the best she sang lead on all the mega selling hits no one says oh yes boney m...great backing vocals lol never its liz and her voice thats rememberd |
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Post by richardjohn on Jul 17, 2006 19:41:37 GMT 1
I don't know if l'm being thick, but what does lol mean?
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Post by jdbaptist on Jul 18, 2006 0:43:38 GMT 1
She means 'Laughing Out Loud'.
You should prove your point and put Marcia's version of 'Rivers Of Babylon' on the site boneym2006 but your point is what? 'Hey Joe' shows exactly how much Marcia Barrett's vocals were used to create that Boney M. sound just as much as Liz Mitchell's. And whether you agree or not the tracks which use the combination are fantastic because of Frank, Marcia and Liz, not Liz alone.
Liz is the lead singer but all of them created that unique sound. Farian picked these vocalists for Boney M. for a reason, one of the most important (to him) was that they should also compliment his voice, which was stamped all over the tracks in various pitches and choral lines. He really only did what Abba had been doing (vocal style wise in the studio) for years in Sweden.
You listen to tracks like '10,000 Lightyears' and they don't sound like Boney M. to me. You have Liz on lead but the backing vocals sound all wrong. Of course they are because he's using other singers in the chorus and it just doesn't sound right. Compare that to classics like 'He Was A Steppenwolf' or No More Chain Gang'; there's none.
And most of the Boney M. remixes are absolute tosh! Not nearly as good as the originals. You can soup up the music all you want; it will still sound like someone banging all yer pots and pans in the kitchen! Worse when they go and mess up the vocals aswell. The worst offenders have to be all the regrettable remixes for the Boney M. Reunion album. What a disaster. My Granny has more of her original teeth than any recording from that pile.
Then what about '20th Century Hits'!! Absolutely dreadful with a mild exception maybe to Doug Laurent's 'Sunny' and 'Rivers Of Babylon' and Nouri & Marek's 'Gotta Go Home'. Quite appalling really. My only bearable remix of Boney M. is pehaps the tranee mix and cosmic people mixes of 'Ma Baker', but just about. ;D
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Post by boneyMitchell2006 on Jul 18, 2006 19:26:39 GMT 1
JOHN SAID .."Liz is the lead singer " BEST THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID MY DEAR!! LOL
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Post by richardjohn on Jul 18, 2006 19:43:02 GMT 1
Yes, but don't you get the point about the blend of the voices. There was magic in those earlier recordings that was lacking later on. l enjoy Liz's solo recordings, l've been listening to her newest album today, l love it because l love her voice. But it is different to the classic Boney M sound with Marcia and Frank.
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Post by jdbaptist on Jul 18, 2006 20:13:20 GMT 1
Exactly richardjohn that's the fact of the matter; some people just don't get it. What can you say? It's probably listening to all those pots'n'pans banging in the remixes.... ;D
I'm not sure how true this is either, but apparently Frank Farian used to make Liz sing in a higher key to her normal style for Boney M. recordings! Does anyone out there know anything more about this?
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Post by richardjohn on Jul 18, 2006 20:38:15 GMT 1
That would explain why her voice sounds so deep on her solo albums. On the track 'Want You To Sleep' on the 'Liz Sings Hits of Boney M' album it's so deep it's approacing Barry White territory! I know that Bjorn and Benny used to make Agnetha and Frida sing in a much higher range than they were used to also. Don't know why but it worked in both cases.
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Post by jdbaptist on Jul 18, 2006 20:58:56 GMT 1
It definately did! I think it would give her vocal more of an edge to it aswell. Farian did get the best out of Liz and I wonder, is that, perhaps the reason that Liz's solo vocals lack that extra something that you would go wow at? She is a great singer but maybe she should start to check her technique a bit more. I'm gonna try it myself and see what happens! (lol)
Maybe that's what Maizie's been up to for the last decade or so and she's gonna scream her way through this new single (lol) - I wonder what is she gonna release? There'll be loads and loads of pots'n'pans banging in that one too! (sick at laughing-out-loud now!) ;D
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just how it was 
